Part 20 (1/2)

”Give it time, Raul. Are you ready for dinner?”

Adjourning to the mess, Parilla asked about a set of thirteen carved and silvered or gilded eagles perched atop poles.

Carrera gestured toward the table and chairs, mahogany and intricately hand carved. ”There is a furniture factory in Valle de las Lunas, Fabrica Fabrica Hertzog, that does fine wood carving and makes some really superb furniture. They made this table, the chairs, the sideboard and the china cabinet. Good work, very good. When you gave me this mission, I gave some thought to what the units' symbols should be. I had Hertzog, that does fine wood carving and makes some really superb furniture. They made this table, the chairs, the sideboard and the china cabinet. Good work, very good. When you gave me this mission, I gave some thought to what the units' symbols should be. I had Fabrica Fabrica Hertzog make these up. Hertzog make these up.

”We'll present them to the legion, cohorts, ala and cla.s.sis at a solemn, probably half-religious, ceremony sometime in the future.”

Carrera moved to take one of the eagles from its rack against the wall. He presented it to Parilla. ”As you can see, sir, the eagles themselves are of gilded or silvered wood. The plaques we just had made up. They give the name and number of the unit that will carry it. This one, for example, is for the 8th Artillery Cohort, Artillery Cohort, Terremoto Terremoto.” Earthquake. He put down the Eighth's eagle and picked up another. Pointing to its plaque he read off, ”Eleventh Air Ala...Jan Sobieski, who beat the Turk at Vienna with his winged winged hussars.” Carrera went down the list, pointing to each in turn. ”Legion: Ruy Diaz de Bivar, Legio del Cid for short...First Cohort: Principe Eugenio, Prinz Eugen who led the Austrians against the Turks...Second Cohort: Roberto Guiscard, the Crusader...Third Cohort: Ricardo, Corazon de Leon, the Crusader....Fourth Cohort: Barbarossa, Crusader...Fifth: Carlos Martillo who stopped the Moslem advance at Tours in old France...Sixth: Vlad Tepes who fought the Turk for Transylvania...Seventh Combat Support: the sword of El Cid, Tizona...Ninth Service Support, his horse, Babieca...Tenth: the Headquarters, Santiago Matamoros, Saint James the Moor killer...Twelfth hussars.” Carrera went down the list, pointing to each in turn. ”Legion: Ruy Diaz de Bivar, Legio del Cid for short...First Cohort: Principe Eugenio, Prinz Eugen who led the Austrians against the Turks...Second Cohort: Roberto Guiscard, the Crusader...Third Cohort: Ricardo, Corazon de Leon, the Crusader....Fourth Cohort: Barbarossa, Crusader...Fifth: Carlos Martillo who stopped the Moslem advance at Tours in old France...Sixth: Vlad Tepes who fought the Turk for Transylvania...Seventh Combat Support: the sword of El Cid, Tizona...Ninth Service Support, his horse, Babieca...Tenth: the Headquarters, Santiago Matamoros, Saint James the Moor killer...Twelfth Cla.s.sis Cla.s.sis: Don John who crushed the Turk at Lepanto.”

”You see where I'm going with this, right?”

Parilla laughed, ”Oh, yes, I see, my friend.”

Dinner commenced and carried on more or less silently. Parilla was on information overload and the staff knew better than to talk plainly. After all, they worked for Carrera, not Parilla. When it was done, and the maids were clearing the table, Carrera asked the general no, el Duce el Duce yet again, if he had any further questions. yet again, if he had any further questions.

”No, none. You have done a fine job...by the way, what is your rank in all this?”

”We have to talk about that, privately. At this moment I probably have no official legal rank beyond a mandate from the Legislative Council to be your deputy and to help prepare the Legion. Shall we repair to the living room for a nightcap to discuss just that? We also need to talk about your own rank.” Carrera nodded to Kuralski to keep the rest of the staff away while he and Parilla chatted.

”The day after tomorrow I am flying to Hamilton, FD to speak with, umm, my family senator. She owes my family a great deal. She also needs our support for future campaigns. Frankly, I despise the b.i.t.c.h on principle but she ought be a useful conduit to greater FSC support.”

An hour and a half later, while Bowman and Morse drove the General home, Kuralski, Sergeant Major McNamara, Fernandez and Carrera relaxed on the back porch of Casa Linda, overlooking the sea. The salty smell of ocean, overlaid with the smell of decayed organic matter from the coast, wafted up.

McNamara chided his boss. ”Now, sir, if you had been t'at good at dog and pony shows back in the FS Army you would have gone far. Why I can just picture you as some four star's aide de camp.”

Carrera made a gagging sound and then leaned back in his chair and clasped his hands behind his head, satisfied at a job well done. ”They tried to grab me to be someone's aide de camp three times, Top. The idea made me ill; I despise despise general officers, for the most part. And, besides, don't confuse inability with unwillingness. I could always dog and pony with the best of them. I just wouldn't do it without a really good reason. Tonight I had a good reason.” general officers, for the most part. And, besides, don't confuse inability with unwillingness. I could always dog and pony with the best of them. I just wouldn't do it without a really good reason. Tonight I had a good reason.”

”And, Mac, tell the boys to put on the uniforms starting tomorrow. With the ranks I gave them when they first got here, with the proviso that Kuralski and Kennison are Legates I and the ex-captains are Tribunes III. And they can skip the promotion party for my having made Legate III. It's just another tool. Besides, we are going to be much too busy for that nonsense over the next several months.”

”As shall I be, Legate Carrera,” smirked Fernandez. ”So if we could have that talk now...”

For such a sensitive matter neither the front steps to the casa casa nor even the dining room would do. Instead, Fernandez and Carrera repaired to the bas.e.m.e.nt conference room. nor even the dining room would do. Instead, Fernandez and Carrera repaired to the bas.e.m.e.nt conference room.

”What the h.e.l.l do you need an 'Intelligence Gathering s.h.i.+p' for, Fernandez? There is no way I can afford the equipment you would need to gather intelligence from a s.h.i.+p. You have no people trained for the equipment anyway. I cannot afford more people from Europe or the FSC, either, not with what I am paying for trainers.”

Fernandez gave a tiny and wintery smile. ”It is not to gather intelligence from from the s.h.i.+p. It is to gather intelligence the s.h.i.+p. It is to gather intelligence in in the s.h.i.+p. I have in mind a prison c.u.m interrogation vessel.” the s.h.i.+p. I have in mind a prison c.u.m interrogation vessel.”

”But why on a s.h.i.+p? We can put up tents and string wire much, much more cheaply.”

”Yes, you can, Patricio. And you can have Amnesty Interplanetary, Liberation International, Freedom of Conscience, the World League and every other cosmopolitan progressive organization breathing down your neck and hara.s.sing you twenty-four hours a day. A s.h.i.+p a s.h.i.+p that never comes to port prevents that.”

”But what do I care if...oh, you are talking about them objecting to...what shall we say? 'Rigorous' interrogation methods?”

”Precisely,” Fernandez agreed.

Carrera considered for a bit. There was a time I would not have permitted anything like torture. Now? Do I still care now? Maybe not. It would have mattered to Linda and that would have once made me care. Then, too, the bar on torture was a bar to torturing real soldiers, honorable men and women. What consideration do I owe to those who kill innocent people deliberately? Maybe none. There was a time I would not have permitted anything like torture. Now? Do I still care now? Maybe not. It would have mattered to Linda and that would have once made me care. Then, too, the bar on torture was a bar to torturing real soldiers, honorable men and women. What consideration do I owe to those who kill innocent people deliberately? Maybe none.

”What do you have in mind and why?” Carrera asked.

”To begin with, Patricio, pain, force and violence, either physical or mental, are always always at least implicit in any interrogation, in war or in peace. It may have been the rack and the hot pincers in the middle ages, or it could be a longer sentence or at least not a at least implicit in any interrogation, in war or in peace. It may have been the rack and the hot pincers in the middle ages, or it could be a longer sentence or at least not a shorter shorter sentence to some h.e.l.l hole of a prison now, for failure to cooperate. The person being interrogated has no let me say that again, sentence to some h.e.l.l hole of a prison now, for failure to cooperate. The person being interrogated has no let me say that again, no no reason to cooperate without some threat or violence.” reason to cooperate without some threat or violence.”

”Yet some do,” Carrera objected.

”Oh, yes,” Fernandez admitted, ”whether in police work or intelligence work, you will sometimes get someone who sings like a bird from the moment you bring him in. In ninety-nine cases out of one hundred, Patricio, even then he is responding to the fear that he might be subject to force and violence. And the other one in a hundred? He's likely to just be a nut from whom you can't get anything of value.”

”Witch trials?” Carrera objected again. ”Forced, valueless confessions? What about all those people on Old Earth who confessed to being what they could not possibly have been, and to doing what they could not possibly have done?”

Fernandez face acquired the indulgent smile professionals sometimes confer on tyros. ”In the first place,” he said, ”the price of confessing to witchcraft was, for a first offense, generally nil. Some not too onerous penance, and being watched carefully for a time thereafter. On the other hand, the penalty for not confessing was often quite awful. If we were interested in obtaining confessions for witchcraft, your objection might be valid. We are not. I am interested only in intelligence which can be corroborated, a very different proposition.”

Carrera shook his head, unconvinced. ”People will still say anything to avoid torture. You can't count on it.”

”Anything, Patricio? That is what you said, is it not: 'anything'? Is not the truth also 'anything'? Will people not speak the truth to avoid torture as well?”

Fernandez knew Carrera smoked. He took out a cigarette and lit it before adding, ”The trick is that you have to have something to work with, some intelligence the person being interrogated does not know you have that you can use to trick him with. You catch him in a lie and then you apply enough duress that he is terrified ever to lie again. Sometimes it takes catching him in two or three lies before you break him, but break him you will provided that you are ruthless enough and have some means of corroboration. Sometimes, if the interrogator is skilled, he can sense when someone's lying if not about precisely what. Then he applies duress until the man contradicts what he had said previously. That's tricky, though, and not everyone can pull it off.

”And then, too, sometimes you can get instantaneous feedback even if you know nothing. If you catch two people who know the same information, you separate them before they can concoct all that complete a story. Apply duress oh, all right! right! torture, until their stories match. Or, too, if you have a true ticking time bomb scenario, your feedback is when the bomb is found. You torture until then.” torture, until their stories match. Or, too, if you have a true ticking time bomb scenario, your feedback is when the bomb is found. You torture until then.”

”It's sickening,” Carrera said. Apparently he had some of his old sensibilities left, after all. He was honestly surprised at himself. ”Just sickening.”

”So? If you are willing to let men be crippled and killed for you under your command, don't you think you owe them a little nausea on your part to give them the best possible chance to live and win?”

Carrera started to answer, and then stopped cold. Perhaps I do. Perhaps I do.

”All right, tell me exactly what you have in mind and how it will operate.”

Hamilton, FD, Federated States of Columbia, 15/10/459 AC Carrera wore a suit and tie G.o.d, I hate ties! G.o.d, I hate ties! and carried an old leather coat over one arm. Unaccompanied, he entered the Senator's reception area and announced himself as, ”Patrick Hennessey. I believe I have an appointment.” and carried an old leather coat over one arm. Unaccompanied, he entered the Senator's reception area and announced himself as, ”Patrick Hennessey. I believe I have an appointment.”

”Oh, yes, sir” the receptionist said. ”The senator was very explicit that you were to be given every courtesy and shown right to her office...but...” The girl looked stricken.

”But?”

”She's tied up in a meeting and won't be quite on time. ”Fifteen minutes late,” she told me, ”no more.” I'm terribly sorry.”

”That'll be fine.”

”If you will follow me, sir.”

Hennessey followed the receptionist to a tastefully decorated office. He noted the probable expense with disapproval, then chided himself for being a cheap prude. Apparently the senator, Harriett Rodman, felt nothing was too good for her comfort and prestige. In the unreal political world of Hamilton, he conceded that she probably had a point.