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10,120. Could you not leave it to the contractor to make these advances?-It is quite optional. There is nothing compulsory in this arrangement at all.
10,121. The men don't need to come to your shop for the advances unless they like?-Not at all. I don't want them; I would as soon pay them in money as goods.
10,122. And the contractor could do so?-Yes. He does so in some cases. I suppose those who bring orders to me are those who want it in that way. Very likely the contractor pays some that I never see at all.
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10,123. Do you suppose that the whole payments he makes are not made through you?-I don't know that they are. There is no arrangement to that effect.
10,124. What is the contract price per ton for curing?-16s., and we supply the implements and materials, and the beach. That is just for his work, putting them from the sh.o.r.es to the beach; and we take them from there to the s.h.i.+pping port.
10,125. In settling with your fishermen, what allowance do you make for the cost of curing the fish per ton of dry fish?-We deduct that from the price we have got for the fish, in estimating what we are to pay our fishermen. That sum includes expense of curing, cost of salt and materials, and removing the fish to the port
where they are to be delivered.
10,126. What other deductions do you make before fixing the sum that is to be divided between you and the fishermen?-We generally make no other deductions. We expect that the 3 should cover everything but I don't know that it does so now, because wages are much higher than they used to be.
10,127. What was the current price paid to fishermen here last year?-8s.
10,128. What was the price of dry fish per ton?-The current price was 23.
10,129. Deducting 3, that would leave 20: was that the sum on which you calculated the division between you and the fishermen?-Yes.
10,130. How do you calculate the price for the green fish?-We calculate 21/4 cwt. of green fish for 1 cwt. dry.
10,131. That would only be 18s. per cwt?-Yes; but we give skipper's fees, and a great deal of perquisites to the crew, which will come to another s.h.i.+lling. The men have lines of their own, and the skipper always gets a fee.
10,132. Then the 2s. extra is intended to cover that?-Yes, and our profit.
10,133. Do you allow yourselves a commission?-Yes; and I think we require it. The hire we take for the boat never covers the price of the boat. I may say that, in my experience, boats which originally cost 20 stand us in 32 when they are worn out, after we have got credit for all the hires charged on them. There is therefore a considerable loss on boats. The hire cannot nearly meet current expenses, much less pay for the original price.
10,134. How do you mean that the boat stood you in 32?-I give sails every second year, and a new sail costs about 2, 10s. Then there is the carpenter's work every year in repairing the boat, and there are oars and everything to be kept up. Taking these things into consideration, the result of the debtor and creditor account of some our boats was that they cost 20 originally, and when worn out they had cost 32.
10,135. What was the hire of these boats?-48s. a year-8s. a man. That was credited to the boat.
10,136. What is the life of a boat?-It is sometimes only a year.
10,137. But that is when she is lost?-No; we sometimes build what appears to be a very good boat, and the carpenter says she is first-cla.s.s; but when the fishermen take her to sea they find she is very bad, and they throw her on our hands, and we cannot use her.
10,138. Does that often happen?-Very often.
10,139. Then the hiring of boats is a very unprofitable business?- It is; indeed I should be very glad if the fishermen would buy their own boats; and if the Government would a.s.sist them in that, it would be a very good thing. The life of a good boat may be about twelve years.
10,140. Is it not an exceptional case where the boat is thrown up at the end of the year?-No, it is very common at the end of one year or two years.
10,141. But when a boat is a good one at first, and pleases the fishermen, she is calculated to last for twelve years?-Yes, and she may last a little longer with increased repairs.
10,142. And the calculation that a boat when worn out costs you 32 is based upon the supposition that she does last for about that period?-Yes; but the 32 is perhaps an exceptional case: that was the highest I ever had in my experience.
10,143. Is the current price of fish according to which you pay your men ascertained by communication with other merchants in Shetland, or is it the actual price, which you get upon your own sales?-There is generally a communication among the curers as to what they think should be the price. Every man states his own opinion freely.