Part 4 (1/2)

[At the end is written in pencil in Malthus's handwriting, 'Was any bullion imported from Hamburg in March?']

XII.

LONDON, _17 Dec., 1812_.

MY DEAR SIR,

I have written to Mr. Thornton[52] to request him to meet you at dinner, at my house, on any day most convenient to him, after Sat.u.r.day and before Thursday, but I have not had his answer in time for this day's post. I will send you a line at the King of Clubs. I shall only ask Mr.

Sharp to meet us. Will you not stay with us whilst you are in town? I a.s.sure you it would be quite convenient, and it would afford me great pleasure. If Mrs. Malthus accompany you it will be still more agreeable, and I am desired by Mrs. Ricardo to add her solicitations to my own.

On many points connected with our old question we are I believe agreed,--though there is yet some difference between us. I have not lately given it so much consideration as you have,--and I always regret that I do not put down in writing, for I have a very treacherous memory, the chief points of difference that occur in our discussions. I cannot help thinking that there is no unfavourable exchange which may not be corrected by a diminution in the amount of the currency, and I consider this to afford a proof that the currency must be redundant for a time at least. Whilst the exchange is unfavourable it is always accompanied, though not always caused, by an excess of currency. With best respects to Mrs. Malthus,

I am, my dear Sir, Yours most truly, DAVID RICARDO.

... As I was about leaving the city I received Mr. Thornton's answer. He is engaged on Wednesday and Thursday, and has fixed on Monday for our meeting, but he wishes us to meet at his house as there is to be a debate in the House of Lords on the Bullion question, and he is not sure that his presence may not be necessary in the Commons. I will settle this point with him, and if you do not hear from me I shall expect you at my house on Monday, if you do not agree to come on Sat.u.r.day evening.

NOTE.--Thomas Tooke, in his 'History of Prices and of the State of the Circulation from 1839 to 1847' (publ. 1848)[53], refers to this dispute between Ricardo and Malthus, on the relation of the currency to the balance of trade, and quotes long extracts from the article of Malthus in the Edinburgh Review, where (as in this correspondence[54]) Malthus maintains that the precious metals are continually used in payments made by one country to another even if, till that moment, the currencies of both have been at their usual level. The view of Ricardo is that nothing but the state of the currency can influence the foreign exchanges. As late as 1840 statesmen clung to the idea that the Directors of the Bank of England could only operate on the exchanges by increasing or diminis.h.i.+ng the circulation[55]. Tooke (followed later by Newmarch, hardly a less authority) sides with Malthus, and thinks that Ricardo's reply to him, in the Appendix to the Tract on Bullion, is 'little more than a repet.i.tion in varied forms of expression, according to the phraseology peculiar to the theory in question, of the axiom that gold will not be exported unless it is cheaper than another commodity, a.s.suming consequently the fact to have been that all commodities were at that time dearer in this country than they were abroad, and relatively to gold;'--whereas it appears[56] that between 1809 and 1811 the bulk of commodities were at a far higher price (measured in gold) on the Continent than in England; the 'continental system' had forced vast stores of goods to lie unsaleable in England for want of physical ability, on the part of the merchants of them, to land them on the Continent, though they did their best to smuggle them by way of Heligoland or Turkey into Germany and the door of Portugal was ajar. Coffee was unsaleable in England at 6_d._ the pound, and at the same time it was fetching 4_s._ or 5_s._ on the Continent. Napoleon used to look at the English price current, and, if he found gold dear and coffee cheap in England, he was satisfied that his Berlin and Milan decrees were well carried out, while the English saw only another proof that the Bank was extending its issues overmuch. Tooke and Malthus agreed that the difference between the market price and the mint price of gold bullion was the full measure of the depreciation of the currency; but the 'ultra-bullionists' would not stop there. Tooke, like Ricardo on another occasion (see Letter XLII), had to 'write a book to convince' them, namely his 'Thoughts and Details on the High and Low Prices of the last Thirty years,' (1823).

XIII.

LONDON, _30th Dec., 1813_.

MY DEAR SIR,

I have been amusing myself for one or two evenings in calculating the exchanges, price of gold, etc., at Amsterdam, and I enclose the result of my labour. I have every reason to believe that my calculations are correct,--though I am somewhat puzzled at the profit which there appears to be on the importation of gold from Amsterdam, if the prices there be quoted correct [_sic_]. If the difference were the other way, we might ascribe it to the money of Holland not being so good as it ought to be by the mint regulations; but in the present instance for guilders, as good as they are coined, gold can be bought 9-1/2 per cent.

cheaper than in London. I am told that gold which cannot be exported has sunk considerably in price although gold that may be exported keeps its price. I fully expect that foreign gold will be lower.

We have had a continuance of foggy weather ever since Monday. We are obliged to burn candles during the day, and at night it is with the greatest difficulty we can find our way to our homes. I hope you are more fortunate and breathe a clearer atmosphere. We shall expect you in Brook Street on your next visit to London. Have the goodness to write the day before you come. With best wishes to Mrs. Malthus,

I am, dear Sir, Yours very truly, DAVID RICARDO.

[TABLES ENCLOSED IN LETTER XII.]

Columns 11 and 12 will show on inspection whether silver be pa.s.sing from London to Amsterdam or from Amsterdam to London. Suppose the price of silver in London to be 6_s._ 7_d._ and the exchange with Amsterdam 28_s._ Against 6_s._ 7_d._ in column 11 the par of exchange is 2941 in column 12; consequently being at 28 it is unfavourable to Amsterdam, and silver can be exported from Amsterdam to London with a profit of 5 per cent. If under the same circ.u.mstances the exchange had been 31, silver could have been exported to Amsterdam with a profit of 5 per cent.

Columns 8, 9 and 10 will show from which country gold may be profitably exported. Suppose the price of gold in Amsterdam to be 16 per cent.

premium, the agio 3 per cent., the exchange with London 31, and the price of gold in London 5 10_s._, from which country would gold be exported and with what profit?

Against 16 per cent. in column 1 the par of exchange in column 8 is 3964, and against 5 10_s._ the price of gold in London in column 9 the multiplier 708 stands in column 10. 3964 multiplied by 708 gives 2806 as the par for bank notes; therefore, when the exchange is at 31, it is unfavourable to Holland, and gold may be exported from thence with a profit of 10-1/2 per cent. nearly. Or thus: an oz. of standard gold, when the marc could be bought at 16 per cent. premium at Amsterdam, would cost 1543 Flemish s.h.i.+llings banco, when the agio was 3 per cent., which reduced into English money at 31 [Flemish] s.h.i.+llings per sterling will give 4 19_s._ 6-3/4_d._ But it will sell in London for 5 10_s._ which is a profit of 10-1/2 per cent. nearly.

Table Key

1: Price of gold at Amsterdam. Premium on _f._ 355 per marc.

2: Value of a marc in current guilders.

3: Corresponding price of an oz. of standard gold in London.

4: Corresponding price of an oz. of standard silver in London.

5: Value of an oz. of standard gold in Flemish current s.h.i.+llings.

6: Value of an oz. of standard gold in Flemish Banco s.h.i.+llings.

Agio 3 p.c.

+--------------+----------+-------------+---------+----------+-------+

1

2

3[57]

4

5

6[58]

+--------------+----------+-------------+---------+----------+-------+

_s._ _d._

Par _f._ 355

_f_ 355

6800

137

133

pence

1 p.c. prem.

35855

6732

1384

1343

2 ”

36210

6667

1398

1357

3 ”

36565

6602

1413

1372

4 ”

36920

6538

1425

1386

5 ”

37275

6476

1439

1398

6 ”

37630

6415

1453

1411

7 ”

37985

6355

1466

1425

8 ”

38340

6296

148

1439

9 ”

38695

6239

1493

1453

38937

3 17 10-1/2

62

1503

1460

10 ”

39050

3 18 1

1507

1463

11 ”

39405

3 18 10

1521

1476

12 ”

39760

3 19 6-1/2

1535

1490

13 ”

40115

4 0 3

1548

1503

14 ”

40470

4 0 11-1/2

1562

1517

15 ”

40825

4 1 8

1575

1529

16 ”

41180

4 2 4-1/2

1589

1543

17 ”

41535

4 3 0-1/2

1603

1556

18 ”

41890

4 3 9

1617

1570

19 ”

42245

4 4 5-1/2

1631

1583

20 ”

426

4 5 2

1645

1596

21 ”

42955

4 5 10-1/2

1658

1610

+--------------+----------+-------------+---------+----------+-------+

Table Key

7: Real par of exchange in Flemish current s.h.i.+llings per sterling in gold.

8: Real par of exchange in Flemish Banco s.h.i.+llings per sterling in gold. Agio 3 p.c.

9: When the price of gold in London in bank notes is 10: The bullion par must be multiplied by 11: Price of standard silver in London in bank notes per oz.

12: Par of exchange with Amsterdam in Banco. Agio 3 p.c.

+-----------+-------------+-------------+------+----------+----------+

7

8

9

10

11

12

+-----------+-------------+-------------+------+----------+----------+

_s._ _d._

_s._ _d._

3520

3417

(1.) 3555

3451

4 0 0

973

5 2

3748

(2.) 3590

3485

4 1 0

961

5 3

3688

(3.) 3625

3519

4 2 0

949

5 4

3660

(4.) 3661

3554

4 3 0

938

5 5

3575

(5.) 3695

3587

4 4 0

927

5 6

3521

(6.) 3731

3622

4 5 0

916

5 7

3468

(7.) 3766

3656

4 6 0

905

5 8

3417

(8.) 3801

3690

4 7 0

895

5 9

3367

(9.) 3836

3724

4 8 0

885

5 10

3319

3861

3748

(10.) 3871

3758

4 9 0

875

5 11

3272

(11.) 3906

3792

4 10 0

865

6 0

3227

(12.) 3962

3327

4 11 0

856

6 1

3184

(13.) 3977

3862

4 13 0

838

6 2

3142

(14.) 4012

3896

4 15 0

820

6 3

3098

(15.) 4048

3930

4 17 0

803

6 4

3058

(16.) 4083

3964

4 19 0

786